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The podcast is finally here ... and trust me, you don't want to miss it.

What is it about and who is it for?

If you have a course that is converting well, and you’re wondering what’s next for your program and your students, this is for you.

The online course journey is so much more than conversion numbers, sold out launches, and five-figure months. It’s about real people getting a real education that has the potential to change their lives.

Education is a powerful force for good, and we have more access to it now than ever before. What you’ve created is needed and good, but it’s also challenging and very nuanced.

This is Next Level Course Creator, a podcast for online course creators who want to create a premium online program that serves the whole person, satisfies student needs, and creates brand ambassadors who tell all their friends about how awesome you are.

Where can I listen?

You can listen right here on the site, as well as on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Looking for the transcripts? You can hop over to the

How can I stay in touch?

You definitely don't want to miss these conversations! Each one is filled with so many good nuggets to really bring the course experience to the next level.

To stay informed about new episodes and fun announcements, be sure to hop on the email list!

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